Comments on: Martha Burk is still right about Augusta and other sexist country clubs

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Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:07:18 +0000

[...] Sara brought up a very important overarching issue to my post last week on men-only country golf clubs: I think that it’s almost a bigger issue than just discrimination at the club. It’s about where and what social circumstances business takes place. What if you don’t play golf? Don’t drink? Don’t go to clubs? As a businesswoman you’re probably missing out on many conversations outside this sexist club just because of your hobbies. [...]

By: BAC

BAC — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:42:22 +0000

Callie, whether or not you choose to acknowledge it, your life is better because there are feminist like Veronica and Martha Burk working so hard on your behalf.

Think of it this way … because of these courageous women you can go shopping to your hearts content with your very own credit card!

BAC

By: Sara

Sara — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:13:18 +0000

I read the article too. There were many points that alluded to the inequalities to women members who were also business women. I think that it’s almost a bigger issue than just discrimination at the club. It’s about where and what social circumstances business takes place. What if you don’t play golf? Don’t drink? Don’t go to clubs? As a businesswoman you’re probably missing out on many conversations outside this sexist club just because of your hobbies.

By: Daisy

Daisy — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:28:00 +0000

Private clubs can determine who they admit. However, a business should not subsidize a discriminatory club any more than they would discriminate in their own business. If the business reimburses their employees or clients for costs of deals cut on the course, then by all means the club better not be discriminating. If “silliness” prevents a woman from doing her job, it’s not silliness. It’s discrimination.

By: Callie

Callie — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:16:39 +0000

I’m not sure how I “have issues,” as it is not I who is earnestly indignant about silliness such as Augusta. But if that means that I “have issues,” then so be it. I don’t cavalierly slap the “discrimination” label on something just because.

And what about this: Aren’t country clubs inherently exclusive? There are extensive membership fees associated with belonging to a country club. Aren’t you all in a rage about that? Because, you know, one could quite easily make the argument that country clubs and the like discriminate against lower-class people. Something to think about isn’t it? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and so it goes for “equality.”

By: tina

tina — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:54:48 +0000

Callie—-you have issues. I think if corporations/businesses wish to make money off of female consumers then the female consumers should be allowed to frequent where they meet and make business deals. There is no such thing as separate but equal facilities either.

By: Jess Wakeman

Jess Wakeman — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:57:53 +0000

Great post!

By: Callie

Callie — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:37:50 +0000

Hmm. How about framing the question a bit differently, so that you’re not forcing an answer. You know, not everyone who reads here is a pity-party-throwing feminist. So, with that it mind, here is my answer to the question you should have posed:

I don’t care who is or is not allowed at a golf club, or any kind of gathering. It simply doesn’t matter to me. I will find other places to go. If I insist on being a go-getter careerist, I’ll have to take with that what comes.

Simply put, I’d rather be feminine than feminist. I relish in being a woman, not in being a woman trying to be a man.